Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/06/2011 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 146 LAND TRANSFER FROM STATE AND ALASKA RR TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 146(FIN) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 164 INSURANCE: HEALTH CARE & OTHER TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 164(FIN) Out of Committee
+= HB 125 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
HOUSE BILL NO. 164                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to insurance;  relating to health care                                                                    
     insurance,  exemption of  certain insurers,  reporting,                                                                    
     notice, and  record-keeping requirements  for insurers,                                                                    
     biographical   affidavits,   qualifications  of   alien                                                                    
     insurers assuming  ceded insurance,  risk-based capital                                                                    
     for insurers,  insurance holding  companies, licensing,                                                                    
     federal requirements for  nonadmitted insurers, surplus                                                                    
     lines  insurance,   insurance  fraud,   life  insurance                                                                    
     policies and annuity contracts,  rate filings by health                                                                    
     care  insurers,  long-term care  insurance,  automobile                                                                    
     service  corporations,  guaranty  fund  deposits  of  a                                                                    
     title   insurer,   joint  title   plants,   delinquency                                                                    
     proceedings,  fraternal   benefit  societies,  multiple                                                                    
     employer  welfare  arrangements, hospital  and  medical                                                                    
     service    corporations,    and   health    maintenance                                                                    
     organizations; and providing for an effective date."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:19:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDA HALL,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF INSURANCE,  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
COMMERCE, COMMUNITY AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, addressed two                                                                    
areas of  major concern  related to  HB 164.  She identified                                                                    
page 50, Section 79, of  the legislation. She explained that                                                                    
Section 79 intended  to act as a  disincentive for employers                                                                    
to drop their  group health coverage. She  read Section (a),                                                                    
lines 6-7,  "an insurer may  not issue an  individual health                                                                    
care insurance  policy to an  employee of an  employer." She                                                                    
related that a group plan  must adhere to specific statutory                                                                    
requirements   that  protect   consumers.  Guarantee   issue                                                                    
insurance  coverage for  the  small group  market  (2 to  50                                                                    
employees) provided that an insurer  could not deny coverage                                                                    
to small  employers. She furthered that  Section (b) allowed                                                                    
for two exceptions.  An employee and insurer  may provide an                                                                    
individual health  insurance policy  with employer  funds if                                                                    
the employee was eligible as  defined by statute. She listed                                                                    
eligible  employees:  part-time,   temporary,  and  seasonal                                                                    
employees  not  eligible  for  a   group  plan.  The  second                                                                    
exception  exempted employers  that did  not provide  health                                                                    
insurance coverage and  had not within the  last six months.                                                                    
She   elaborated   that   individual   coverage   was   more                                                                    
restrictive   than   group   coverage.  For   example,   the                                                                    
individual market  excluded maternity coverage;  small group                                                                    
plans provided it.  The Division of Insurance  opted to help                                                                    
people  denied  coverage  due   to  existing  conditions  in                                                                    
Section   79.  Employees   forced  to   purchase  individual                                                                    
policies due to  a dropped group plan  would be underwritten                                                                    
for  deniable  health  conditions.  The  section  would  not                                                                    
protect the  other employees  that must  wait six  months or                                                                    
more for other health coverage.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:23:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough  referred to testifiers  concerns that                                                                    
Section 79 would severely  limit employer's flexibility. Her                                                                    
interpretion was  that the employee received  the penalty in                                                                    
the event an employer  can only provide individual coverage,                                                                    
not the  employer. The employee  was left at risk.  She felt                                                                    
the policy decision was left open for debate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:28:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hall  directed attention  to Section  46 (line  16, page                                                                    
27) t related to surplus lines.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KURT OLSON,  SPONSOR,  spoke  in support  of                                                                    
Section  46. He  explained that  the National  Conference of                                                                    
Insurance Legislators (NCOIL)  proposed model legislation, a                                                                    
national tax and collection  authority that relinquished the                                                                    
authority from states Division of Insurance.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  reported a  conflict  of  interest as  a  member of  the                                                                    
Executive Committee  of NCOIL and  member of  the Interstate                                                                    
Insurance Product Review Committee (IIPRC).                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Olson  declared that  he was  in wholehearted                                                                    
support  of Section  46. He  believed that  the NCOIL  model                                                                    
legislation was hastily crafted  and not fully developed. He                                                                    
believed that  Section 46 was thoughtfully  fashioned by the                                                                    
division  and conformed  to the  federal  mandate. He  noted                                                                    
that  20  other  states   proposed  legislation  similar  to                                                                    
Section  46. The  Alaska Surplus  Lines Association  was the                                                                    
main  opposition  to  Section  46.  He  concluded  that  the                                                                    
division had the existing structure  and experience to carry                                                                    
out  the provisions  of Section  46. Passage  will save  the                                                                    
state money and lead to faster implementation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair   Fairclough  understood   that  existing   state                                                                    
statute granted  the division tax-collecting  authority. The                                                                    
provisions of Section  46 would enable Alaska  to benefit if                                                                    
particular [insurance] products were sold.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara read  page 28,  lines 3-4,  Section 46:                                                                    
"The tax paid  by the insurer under this section  is in lieu                                                                    
of  all   insurer  taxes…"  He  wondered   how  the  section                                                                    
influenced the  amount of tax  the state could  collect from                                                                    
insurance companies.  Ms. Hall replied  that HB 164  did not                                                                    
change  the  amount of  taxes  owed.  The bill  defined  the                                                                    
surplus  lines tax  rate.  The only  change  combined a  2.7                                                                    
percent tax  and a 1  percent stamping  fee to a  single 3.7                                                                    
percent tax.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:33:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara asked  for  an  explanation of  surplus                                                                    
lines. Ms. Hall explained that  surplus lines were a type of                                                                    
insurance  written  differently   than  admitted  insurance.                                                                    
Admitted  insurers must  file  authorizations  for form  and                                                                    
rate approval.  A class of "other"  insurers underwrote more                                                                    
difficult  lines of  insurance  such as  earthquake or  some                                                                    
marine  coverage. They  did  not file  forms  and rates  for                                                                    
approval. The  taxes were paid  by surplus lines  brokers as                                                                    
opposed to the actual insurance company.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hall elaborated  that Section 46 introduced  a new "home                                                                    
state"  concept based  on changes  in the  federal law  that                                                                    
preempted state  statutes from the  type of  tax collection.                                                                    
The  state currently  collected  premium taxes  only on  the                                                                    
portion of a multi-state  surplus line insurance policy with                                                                    
a risk  located in the  state of Alaska. In  compliance with                                                                    
the new federal law, the  state would collect 100 percent of                                                                    
the tax  debt if Alaska was  declared the home state  of the                                                                    
multi-state business owner.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough  asked how  many insurers  sell multi-                                                                    
state surplus  lines. Ms. Hall identified  approximately 900                                                                    
surplus lines  brokers; 100 were residents  of Alaska. Vice-                                                                    
chair Fairclough  asked whether  the state stood  to benefit                                                                    
from  Section 49  if an  Alaskan surplus  lines broker  sold                                                                    
their product  in another  state. Ms.  Hall replied  that it                                                                    
did  not matter  where  the insurer  selling  a product  was                                                                    
located;  what  mattered was  the  location  of the  insured                                                                    
property.  Vice-chair  Fairclough  asked  how  Alaska  would                                                                    
benefit from the statute change.  Ms. Hall informed that the                                                                    
provision enabled the state to  continue to collect taxes on                                                                    
surplus lines  risk. She contended  that the  division could                                                                    
not  collect taxes  on multiple  state  risks, estimated  at                                                                    
$500 thousand,  if the  state failed to  conform to  the new                                                                    
federal mandate.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:37:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara referred  to Section 64 of  the bill. He                                                                    
inferred  that  long-term  care  insurance  could  not  deny                                                                    
coverage for  a pre-existing condition. He  noted the change                                                                    
in the  definition of "pre-existing".  He asked  whether the                                                                    
statute made it easier or  harder to deny coverage. Ms. Hall                                                                    
responded   that  "the   intent   was  to   take  away   the                                                                    
subjectivity of  an ordinary prudent  person and  instead to                                                                    
rely  on  medical advice  or  treatment  as opposed  to  the                                                                    
opinion of an ordinary prudent person."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara asked  whether HB 164 made  it harder or                                                                    
more  expensive to  procure insurance  or reduced  coverage.                                                                    
Ms. Hall answered in the  negative.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked whether  HB 164 was  written in                                                                    
response to changes in federal  law. Ms. Hall responded that                                                                    
only Section 46 (the section  on surplus lines) was included                                                                    
due to federal law. She  elaborated that the legislation was                                                                    
influenced   by  the   National  Association   of  Insurance                                                                    
Commissioners   (NAIC),  loosely   described   as  a   trade                                                                    
association of all the insurance  regulators in the country.                                                                    
The   Association   attempted  to   implement   self-imposed                                                                    
uniformity of  insurance laws.  The division  was accredited                                                                    
by NAIC and  many of the changes in HB  164 were included to                                                                    
maintain  accreditation standards.  She  noted  that all  50                                                                    
states  were accredited,  which ensured  financial oversight                                                                    
of insurance companies.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:41:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked if  a state board  of insurance                                                                    
existed. Ms. Hall replied in the negative.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD BOUHAN, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF                                                                    
PROFESSIONAL SURPLUS LINES  OFFICES, LTD. (NAPSLO), MISSOURI                                                                    
(via  teleconference), spoke  in opposition  to the  surplus                                                                    
lines and  tax collection provisions  in HB 164.  He alleged                                                                    
that the  legislation would not  conform to the  new federal                                                                    
law.  The  legislation  required  the  establishment  of  an                                                                    
allocation  formula for  surplus lines  tax collection.  The                                                                    
formula proposed  by NAIC  in their  "non-admitted insurance                                                                    
multi-state  agreement" was  burdensome to  brokers and  did                                                                    
not simplify the tax payment  process as mandated by federal                                                                    
law.  He  opposed  paying  taxes  to  a  clearinghouse  that                                                                    
allowed states  to distribute  revenue from  taxes collected                                                                    
on  multi-state surplus  lines risk  policies. He  felt that                                                                    
the  tax  rates  established  under the  structure  did  not                                                                    
comply with federal regulations. He  added that only 5 to 15                                                                    
percent of surplus lines were  multi-state. He was uncertain                                                                    
that any state would gain  revenue by entering into a multi-                                                                    
state compact.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough asked the  witness if he had contacted                                                                    
any Alaskan insurers on the  issue. Mr. Bouhan answered that                                                                    
he  contacted insurance  companies  and  brokers dealing  in                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  MOVED to report  CS HB 164  (L&C) 27-                                                                    
LS0444/B  out of  Committee with  individual recommendations                                                                    
and the accompanying fiscal note.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:50:27 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:51:04 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson WITHDREW her motion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  MOVED to Adopt  CS HB 164  (FIN) (27-                                                                    
LS0444\I, Bailey,  4/1/11) as a working  document before the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair  Fairclough   OBJECTED  for  discussion   on  the                                                                    
difference between the versions.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Hall  reported that the  CS reflected  minor corrections                                                                    
or formatting  changes and did  not contain  any substantive                                                                    
changes. She  listed the revisions. She  referenced page 38,                                                                    
line  13, the  addition of  three  words "the  sum of."  She                                                                    
identified that page 62, line  13, corrected a repealer. She                                                                    
concluded that on  line 15, page 62, the  number 14 replaced                                                                    
13 as the correct number.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough REMOVED her  OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  MOVED to report CSHB  164(FIN) out of                                                                    
Committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal  note. There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CSHB  164(FIN) was  REPORTED  out of  Committee  with a  "no                                                                    
recommendation"  and  with   attached  previously  published                                                                    
fiscal note: FN1, CED.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:54:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 146 Chronolgy Final.pdf HFIN 4/6/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 146
CSHB146 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/6/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 146
Dec_17_RR_letter[1].pdf HFIN 4/6/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 146
Corp_ARTA_2005_excerpt.pdf HFIN 4/6/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 146
HB 164 CS WORKDRAFT 27-LS0444-I.pdf HFIN 4/6/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 164
HB 125 Kate Burkhart AMHB Testimony and responses 040611.pdf HFIN 4/6/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 125
HB 125 ABC Mission.pdf HFIN 4/6/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 125
HB 146 CS WORKDRAFT 27-LS0505-I.pdf HFIN 4/6/2011 1:30:00 PM
HB 146